I just started playing again after a 5 year break,,, I finally got myself up to a hulk to mine, and I only mine in .9 for now until I can train drones up enough to get some hobs for protection.


Anyways, I encountered this for the first time today....... some doorknob evidently finds great delight in ramming mining ships to keep knocking you out of mining distance...... this guy followed me around for an hour doing this and demandng a 10,000,000 ransom to stop.... you can't attack them in .9


Is this normal now?

Repeatedly bumping someone who is mining to keep them from mining and demanding a ransom to stop the bumping is not an accident.... it would be termed more as a form of in game extortion.

Miners have no ability to retaliate in .9 or 1.0 space against someone who repeatedly follows them from belt to belt for hours constantly bumping them off their asteroids.

I did pack up and move about 16 jumps out and hopefully that will solve the problem for a while.


Repeatedly bumping someone for an hour and chasing them through all the belts in a system with the sole purpose of keeping them from enjoying what they pay money to do is nothing but harassment plain and simple. Demanding a ransom to stop the activity should be a should be considered as proof that it is not "accidental" and should be a bannable offense considering there is a chat log of the conversation.


I seriously doubt at this point I will renew either of my accounts once my 6 months expires at this point and will focus instead on Elder Scrolls Online in a few months.


Mining is what attracted me to this game, its peaceful and quiet and I enjoy doing it.

Can't blame ya man. EVE is still a joke with regards on how it deals with high sec "pirates". Maybe CCP will pull their head out of their ass one day.

CCP have no need to do anything of the sort, they're not in that particular predicament. Speaking heads and arses, hows the view from there?

yea, tell that to my friends who I can't get to play EVE because none of them wants to ever be at the mercy of cowardly douchebags who take no risks and pay no real consequences for failure or success.

I guess CCP didn't want their money anyway. They would rather keep cowardly grief monkeys who are afraid of challenge happy? Like I said, hopefully CCP will pull their head out of their ass one of these days.

so many nonsensical clowns.

it has nothing to do with standing up for ourselves, you ridiculous clown. It is the fact that high sec "pirates" can't really be punished and take no risks and sometimes people just want to pve and not be ****** with. You have serious reading comprehension issues you need to work out before you reply in this thread any further.

it has nothing to do with standing up for ourselves,

not everything in a mmorpghas has to be done with a group of people, especially a game touted as a "sandbox".

If you weren't a moron you would understand this.

They don't care about the fact that the mining mechanic encourages players to AFK to not die of boredom. The "AFKness", "non-tankiness" or whatnot of their victims is just an excuse to let their inner asshats take control without risk of getting their ass kicked like in RL.
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The only point I have made ( and continue to make) is....

Why must CCP do your thinking for you?

EVERY other profession in EvE requires thought to avoid catastrpophic loss.

WHY must mining be a protected profession?

The tools already exist to have a life free from the fear of small gang ganking, what more do you want?

My apologies, I should have worded that from the other direction and clarified location. Allow me to re-state:
Mining is the only in-space profession whose ships are meant to do something other than fight.

In all but one of your in-space examples (courier), there will be fighting, and more importantly, the ship you will be in will be designed to fight. I admit to not knowing what a cyno-alt is, but my guess is a character serving only as a jump bridge for others. Even there, you will be in a ship designed for combat.

Please, no one talk about how any equipment can be fit on any ship if it's the right slot! I would have to ask why you don't take an Orca into fleet warfare. Or a Hulk to assault a POS.....

I have to quibble with the statement that "highsec is where the pvp is". First, a mendacious point hashed over plenty the past few days: ganking is not PvP, as the aggression and threat is from one side only. Ganking is the knock-out game.

I'd offer a suggestion. What if Concord response time was a multiplier of the security status? 1.0 means arrival nearly immediately. 0.5 means Concord arrives as fast as it does now. Then extrapolate for the other numbers.

Real world problems like ISK/hr?